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Thread: Trading And Selling Torrent Site Invites - Public Service or Outright Menace?

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    Trading And Selling Torrent Site Invites - Public Service or Outright Menace?

    Access to private torrent sites can only usually be achieved by obtaining a personal invitation from someone who is already a member. However, there are ways to short-circuit the process, such as buying an invite from a seller or doing a trade. Do these routes amount to a public service, or do traders and sellers undermine tracker security to the detriment of all?

    privateVery generally there are three types of torrent site, each requiring a different level of commitment from the user.

    First there are the no-signup required types that give free access to all of their features with no commitment required by the end user. Next there are the free to access sites that also offer additional features if the user is prepared to sign up with an email address. Finally we have private torrent sites that have all of their features behind a subscription wall.

    Gaining access to this latter category can vary from a fairly simple process to an almost impossible one. Some private sites let new members sign up via an ordinary page with no additional restrictions but many operate an invite-only regime and are very strict about who should obtain them.

    The first hurdle, trading and cash
    Herein lies the problem. If a user wants access to BestTrackerInTheWorld.com he needs to have an online buddy already on the site with invites to spare – if he doesn’t then he can’t get in. However, there are ways for people to obtain invites without having any ‘real’ friends at all.

    Firstly, there are sites around where people in possession of invites to site X are able to trade them with people who have invites to site Y. By sharing in this fashion a user with access to a couple of sites’ invites can find himself with double or triple the amount, if he plays the game cautiously.

    This activity is strictly against the rules of many private trackers but that doesn’t stop those wishing to trade. Many traders build up vast collections of invites which are not only valuable in terms of the access they provide, but in a real monetary way too. And when there’s cash on the table, getting access to that all-important first invite isn’t hard at all.

    There are plenty of places online where people can buy an invitation to a low-end private tracker for just a few bucks. Furthermore, those with deep pockets should have no problems gaining access to even the most exclusive private trackers, providing the price is right.

    Trading scum
    dangerAt this point many admins, moderators, staffers and users of private torrent sites will be screaming at the screen. Trading and selling invites is almost always completely banned on invite-only sites and those who participate in either activity are often viewed as the lowest of the low.

    “These scum put our security in jeopardy,” a moderator of one site told TorrentFreak.

    “Any anti-piracy company can buy an invite and put the whole site at risk. We don’t want traders on the tracker and them being there undermines our work.”

    However, trackers do allow members who have proved themselves in some way to give out a few invitations of their own. They are supposed to do this carefully, to people they already trust and only to those who will contribute positively to the site. But how can site operators be sure that’s going to happen?

    “Well if they screw up and invite a trader/seller/cheater whatever, they’re gonna get their account banned aren’t they?” a staffer on another site told us.

    But just as an anti-piracy company might threaten a file-sharer with prosecution for his transgressions (and be completely ignored of course), invite sellers and traders don’t follow tracker rules either.

    Getting organized – trading and selling invites on the web
    One site that aims to drive a bus through the invite wall is TorrentInvites.org (TI). This site and its users give away and sell/trade invites (plus other items such as seedboxes) and its operator is only too aware that his work is unappreciated by many private trackers.

    “I know that trackers are calling us scumbags or whatever, because they want users to invite only REAL friends on their sites. But come on… we’re in 2013. The power of the net is HUGE and our virtual friends are (unfortunately in my opinion) in many cases more than our real friends,” he told TorrentFreak.

    “I find it funny that these guys who are breaking federal copyright laws are calling us scumbags, because we are breaking their (shitty in my opinion) anti-trading and anti-selling invites rules.”

    We asked the operator of one private tracker for his opinion of TI and while he didn’t use the word ‘scumbag’ he did get to the point in a four letter word that you rarely hear even in the movies. He also threatened to nuke anyone even slightly associated with the site. However, the admin of TI doesn’t see his operation as the natural enemy of torrent sites.

    Let’s be friends
    friends“We are just giving the chance to many thousands of users to join some good private trackers. To users who are not lucky enough to have real friends to invite them. To users who can prove in the near future that they really deserved this chance,” TI explains.

    While the trackers’ stance is understandable, to his credit TI does put forward what appear to be some logical arguments in support of his operation being of use to trackers.

    “A guy who is willing to pay for an invite is probably the kind of user who is going to donate to a tracker as well. I think it makes sense!” he says.

    “Another interesting example. Let’s suppose that an HDBits.org account costs $200. A guy doesn’t really need his account and he is selling it to another user. Isn’t it obvious that the new owner needs it more and will make better use of the account than the previous user?

    “What trackers want are good users. Why the hell will they ban this account if they find out
    that there was a deal involved? If [the trackers] would let each user to do whatever he likes with his account, after a while they would have the best possible user base.”

    Countering, the retired sysop of another tracker told us that anyone buying invites for large amounts of cash should always be viewed with suspicion as anti-piracy outfits tend to have deep pockets. That may well be, but aren’t they also just as capable of infiltrating communities, making online ‘friends’ and obtaining invites for free?

    “I’m sure it happens but we wanted to try to reduce the odds,” he said. “I don’t know if it worked or not, all I can say is that it seemed effective at the time. What I hated most was seeing some kid punting our invites all over the place and making good money when we were struggling to pay our server bills.”

    Trackers sell invites too
    cashWhile the sysop above clearly wasn’t prepared to step over the line and sell his own invites, there are quite a few sites who are currently doing that.

    Visitors to some of the larger private trackers will be aware that while the sites are advertised as full, room can apparently be made for those prepared to donate in return for an invite. However, while not always advertised as blatantly as this, other sites are indeed involved in selling their own invites.

    One trader who asked to remain anonymous told TorrentFreak that over the past year he has obtained an official supply of invites from almost a dozen private trackers which he sells and sends back a cut.

    “Some they are wanting me to sell invites only to the best users but others they do not care about it,” he explains. “I give them money and they give me invites, beyond that does not concern me.”

    Selling, trading or giving away – can security ever be assured?
    TI notes that just because an invite channel is official – whether that is via the site itself or some other sanctioned source – it doesn’t necessarily follow that the quality of new members will be high.

    “Just keep in mind that MANY (bad) users are getting invites in a ‘legit’ way, through tracker’s forums or official recruitment threads [on sites such as Reddit etc] and they are selling/trading these invites,” he concludes.

    The issue of invites is controversial and unlikely to disappear soon. Trackers obviously have an interest in having some sort of control over who gets them when their security is at stake. On the other hand, however, trackers themselves are giving invites to people that they do not personally know yet are asking their members not to follow suit.

    In the meantime sites like TI ignore all the rules in order to give the community what they believe it really wants. Who is right? You decide…

    SOURCE http://torrentfreak.com/

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    Hats off to http://torrentfreak.com/
    They did an amazing job once again with this article, because the torrent community had to read the other side of the story (our side) as well.

    All of us have to post on THIS topic and tell our opinion.

    There are great users who traded or bought an invite in the past. And of course many good users applied in a GA thread because this was their only way to get into a good private tracker.
    Users with seedboxes, who donated a lot, who invited their real friends, who uploaded torrents and participated on the forums.

    It sucks big time all these good users to be blacklisted from the trackers.

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    I was absolutely sure that some trackers' staff is making money with this "invite business", now TF guys confirmed it.

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    Actually tbh, I don't really do the selling invites thing, I don't really believe in making money out of invites I have never sold one invite in my life for money I have always made my way up the ladder through exchanging invites, I do believe strongly in the site rules so I only stick to swapping Invites from person to person (no bad intentions meant to sellers etc.. in any way by that last comment!) which I feel I am somewhat in a way sticking to the rules which private sites want you to abide by. I always vet my invites that I pass on to person to person and make sure that the invitee is very safe and wants that invite for the best intentions of the site and that goes back to the comment above, a new invitee wanting that invite will always make the best of the site, he will give it maximum respect and always with donations, which in turn is better than a member who is already there that just dishes out a random invite to some person who he knows on Facebook for example which for all he knows that invite came too easy for that person and then becomes lazy with there new account and only bad things comes out of it!. So I believe in what I do is the best for my invites so I don't see any harm in what I do!. My conclusion is TI makes a very good argument!. Not so sure about the money making part though?, but good. Thanks, great topic & a great read.
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    Nice, balanced article by TF.
    I personally believe the invite system and the method administration advise and implement invite giveaway in this site is great. A user who really needs an invite and has some potential can enter the trackers, and finally that type of users are who they really should be needing.
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    What a great article, that really hits the point of all this. I personally traded and bought invites in the past, however never sold an invite before (doesn't really matter).

    But I began to think that, give & take is better than trading the invites (safer). But sometimes you can't get what you want unless you trade or pay some money for it.

    If we're being realistic, All the content that you need, it can be found on a level 2 or 3 tracker (rarity point of view) which is easy to get into.

    This is just the human nature, we're always looking for what we don't have (greed or curiosity) and I think it's Ok to do so.

    But I agree, If I'm willing to pay money to get in, then I'm that kind of user that you gonna wanna hold onto.
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    I could have never gotten into private trackers without a social formation like TI. Thanks to TI i have accounts more than one private tracker and i really appreciate it!

    I had accounts in private trackers in my homeland but couldn't receive an account from global private trackers because none of my friends had one and no one could give me an invitation.

    So i think calling sites like TI "scums" is really making up unsupported stories! However, we could call those who sell their invites in exchange of money as scums if they had gotten in those sites with the help of free invites in the first place. I think it would be an appropriate word for those kind of people.
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    I think that TF wrote a great article. I believe that there are 2 sides of this coin and this is my first time on the other side. I believe it is hard to get into good tracker sites. My first and only one so far I was part of for almost 4 years before they closed their site recently. Before that I had only used un-reputable site like The Bay. When I got onto my first real site I was a go getter to get my ratio and reputation up. Although looking on here it wasn't ranked very high, I was very happy and almost never had to look anywhere else for my info. Now that it is gone I cannot figure out how to get into a new tracker. I am navigating this road to do just that. I am very confused on how but I am trying to learn. I think if you have someone like me who is making an effort to learn how to get into a tracker then an invite to them would be worth the sites time. I believe that a tracker site would do well to get involved in a site like TI. That could put out buys with contingency like reputation or an info ban that would allow a user to seed but not have access to other parts of a site until they have proved that they are a contributable part of their site (ie. ratio above a certain point). Maybe I am naive, I am new here after all. I fell into a comfort zone with my last site that was ripped away from me when it closed it's site.

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    I got my very first torrent sites by signing up but it was much easier back then. I have been around the scene since before torrents. I shared music on napster with dial up before cable. Then along came irc and xdcc bots and I got into them hard and heavy and even started a few channels and became a ircop on a filesharing network. Then my buddy mentioned that torrents were the new filesharing so I signed up for one called extreme files which closed down a year or so after. I then got in on the ground floor of a new small tracker (FSC) that wanted to focus on forums and filesharing all at once. I became an uploader there and enjoyed using them for several years. This is probably one of the hardest invites to get. It wasn't back then as they couldn't give them away. I personally don't have any issues with people buying or trading. My point is that trackers which are easy to get now can become very difficult. It can take years to get the desired trackers you want if you don't have some shortcut. I got real lucky with FTN and UKT (they were very hard to get back in day before they stopped) as I knew the creator of the 264 tracker and he got me in these. Sad thing is i let my accounts get pruned as real life took over. It happens to everyone at some point and this was a nice way to get a few good trackers back. I hung out with a lot of people who worked on trackers and that helped a lot too. They got together and formed PTN and it was a great place but my friends are all gone now.

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    I don't think it is that bad at all. There should be checks and balances in place though so the MPAA or RIAA can't come busting in. We all have real lives, some places are more demanding than others. As long as we really just keep or heads clear and use common sense we should be okay to go.


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