Originally Posted by RossoBreitner

I would also love myself a seedbox with 5TB hard disk, as it would make me have more comfort. Anyone would love that.
But I think we are missing a crucial factor, guys
How much does it cost?

I pay 300usd every 6 month with those specs.. OVH server 1mbps unlimited traffic.. But its WHO you know that factors in too

Originally Posted by TrenxT

I pay 300usd every 6 month with those specs.. OVH server 1mbps unlimited traffic.. But its WHO you know that factors in too

That's 50 dollars a month... To expensive unfortunately.
Most users can afford or are willing to pay up to 20 dollars/euro a month, or even less.

If I could afford your amount, I would go for the first Red Dragon Box of seedboxes.cc.
For a 6 months period, I would pay € 42.49 a month, with 22TB upload traffic a month (I could never reach that! ), 1,7TB hard disk (the only "drawback" ) but with an impressive 20Gbps speed that makes the difference indeed

Originally Posted by RossoBreitner

That's 50 dollars a month... To expensive unfortunately.
Most users can afford or are willing to pay up to 20 dollars/euro a month, or even less.

If I could afford your amount, I would go for the first Red Dragon Box of seedboxes.cc.
For a 6 months period, I would pay € 42.49 a month, with 22TB upload traffic a month (I could never reach that! ), 1,7TB hard disk (the only "drawback" ) but with an impressive 20Gbps speed that makes the difference indeed

50 usd for a FULLY DEDICATED BOX at OVH is pennies.. 5tb and unlimited traffic. Seedboxes.cc is a joke. As you stated if you had it youd pay 46 usd a month 4 dollars less, but with 4tb less in HDD and a 22tb traffic that would be filled in 3 days for me.

For 44usd a month u can get a 3tb 10gbps UNLIMITED traffic at Feral yet again dismanteling seedboxes.cc

But hey you all like that waste your money on it .. even the 14 USD 1tb 10gbs unlimited traffic from feral beats that... But oh well

http://prntscr.com/9gm8od

Imagine if i were with one of those crappy seedboxes.cc i would have been done already. and still 11 days to go and im almost double the traffic seedboxes allows and this is a slow month

Originally Posted by TrenxT

50 usd for a FULLY DEDICATED BOX at OVH is pennies.. 5tb and unlimited traffic. Seedboxes.cc is a joke. As you stated if you had it youd pay 46 usd a month 4 dollars less, but with 4tb less in HDD and a 22tb traffic that would be filled in 3 days for me.

For 44usd a month u can get a 3tb 10gbps UNLIMITED traffic at Feral yet again dismanteling seedboxes.cc

But hey you all like that waste your money on it .. even the 14 USD 1tb 10gbs unlimited traffic from feral beats that... But oh well

http://prntscr.com/9gm8od

Imagine if i were with one of those crappy seedboxes.cc i would have been done already. and still 11 days to go and im almost double the traffic seedboxes allows and this is a slow month

Crappy seedboxes...

Originally Posted by TrenxT

50 usd for a FULLY DEDICATED BOX at OVH is pennies.. 5tb and unlimited traffic. Seedboxes.cc is a joke. As you stated if you had it youd pay 46 usd a month 4 dollars less, but with 4tb less in HDD and a 22tb traffic that would be filled in 3 days for me.

For 44usd a month u can get a 3tb 10gbps UNLIMITED traffic at Feral yet again dismanteling seedboxes.cc

But hey you all like that waste your money on it .. even the 14 USD 1tb 10gbs unlimited traffic from feral beats that... But oh well

http://prntscr.com/9gm8od

Imagine if i were with one of those crappy seedboxes.cc i would have been done already. and still 11 days to go and im almost double the traffic seedboxes allows and this is a slow month

TrenxT, you probably belong to a infinitesimal minority of 0,0000000000000000000001% of torrent users

22TB traffic filled in 3 days for you?
This is an enormous achievement. Very good for you, but while I've been to this torrent world for a very long time and I know a lot of heavy uploaders, I don't know any other user on planet who can manage that.
I couldn't do that myself, actually. Even if I spend all day in front of my pc, I still couldn't do it. I would need a few people "torrent-working" for me to make this happen


Those "crappy" seedboxes.cc, in their cheapest option and with their most important factor, their top speed of 20Gbps, made me have a great ratio on many trackers, feeling comfortable and totally loose in this private trackers affair. I know I will never ever have to worry about ratio anywhere using common sense and this "cheap" seedbox, and spending the money that I can afford. I don't need more, extraordinary ratios or tremendous buffers that are practically impossible to take advantage of them.


LBNL: You can afford 50 USD a month for a seedbox. Lucky you
I can assure you though that the vast majority of users can't afford that.
And they don't have to, either. They can easily enjoy their hobby with 15 UDS or less.
And they are happy about that.
Regards.

Originally Posted by RossoBreitner

TrenxT, you probably belong to a infinitesimal minority of 0,0000000000000000000001% of torrent users

22TB traffic filled in 3 days for you?
This is an enormous achievement. Very good for you, but while I've been to this torrent world for a very long time and I know a lot of heavy uploaders, I don't know any other user on planet who can manage that.
I couldn't do that myself, actually. Even if I spend all day in front of my pc, I still couldn't do it. I would need a few people "torrent-working" for me to make this happen


Those "crappy" seedboxes.cc, in their cheapest option and with their most important factor, their top speed of 20Gbps, made me have a great ratio on many trackers, feeling comfortable and totally loose in this private trackers affair. I know I will never ever have to worry about ratio anywhere using common sense and this "cheap" seedbox, and spending the money that I can afford. I don't need more, extraordinary ratios or tremendous buffers that are practically impossible to take advantage of them.


LBNL: You can afford 50 USD a month for a seedbox. Lucky you
I can assure you though that the vast majority of users can't afford that.
And they don't have to, either. They can easily enjoy their hobby with 15 UDS or less.
And they are happy about that.
Regards.

Sir dont take me wrong I am not bashing on you or others just pointing to the facts and as you may know facts dont lie. But I am not in the minority.. I cant name you real fast 20 ppl on my friends list ( public trackers ) that send an average of 70tb a month :s but besides that what I am saying is you will rarely hit the threshold of 20gbps uploading firstly because ot is shared not dedicated, secondly because it needs to be a torrent so so popular everyone wants it. so why pay 15USD for a 1tb HDD at 20GBPS which you will most likely NOT max out and LIMITED upload bandwith, when you can pay 14usd for 1tb 10gbps and UNLIMITED upload bandwith.. see the balance there

Originally Posted by TrenxT

...I cant name you real fast 20 ppl on my friends list ( public trackers ) that send an average of 70tb a month...

This explains your point of view

That's why most of the seedbox companies do not allow public trackers. Because on public trackers, the majority of users download what they need and they don't even seed (they delete the torrent right after they have finished it). Or they seed with their slow home connections so their upload speed is terrible.

Having said that, we understand that the majority of those users, take advantage (speed/bandwidth) of the minority of the seedbox users...

On the other hand, on private trackers most users have seedboxes, so the "upload competition" is hard. Just try to download 1GB torrent on SCC, BMTV (and other similar trackers) and you will see how hard it is to make ratio 1 or bigger on this torrent!

So, imo, unlimited traffic is pointless on private trackers. Most of the users i know, don't even upload 3TB per month on their trackers (since it's so hard to upload on good private trackers) and 3TB is enough buffer to use for the next 1 year anyway...

In conclusion:
- Users love fast seedboxes (to maintain a good ratio as easy as possible), with many available plugins/tools, good support and stability. Most of users don't have the knowledge (and the time) to setup a dedicated server and deal with many possible problems they will have sooner or later. So they just buy a seedbox from a good company like seedboxes.cc (and many other good companies of course) and they do the job.
- I really believe that using a seedbox on public trackers is a waste of money. You can just buy a HUGE HDD for your home PC, a VPN ($50 or so per year) to hide your real IP and save A LOT of money. This way you also save time from the FTP transfer process (seedbox to desktop).
- Last but not least, i don't recommend public trackers anyway. They are way more risky than private trackers (even while you are using a VPN since nobody knows how safe the VPN companies are) and they are full of shit as well. Too many viruses on public trackers and of course most of public trackers are very bad organized compared to the private trackers.

Anyway... Everybody has a different point of view, so there is no need for fights guys

Originally Posted by TheTrader

This explains your point of view

That's why most of the seedbox companies do not allow public trackers. Because on public trackers, the majority of users download what they need and they don't even seed (they delete the torrent right after they have finished it). Or they seed with their slow home connections so their upload speed is terrible.

Having said that, we understand that the majority of those users, take advantage (speed/bandwidth) of the minority of the seedbox users...

On the other hand, on private trackers most users have seedboxes, so the "upload competition" is hard. Just try to download 1GB torrent on SCC, BMTV (and other similar trackers) and you will see how hard it is to make ratio 1 or bigger on this torrent!

So, imo, unlimited traffic is pointless on private trackers. Most of the users i know, don't even upload 3TB per month on their trackers (since it's so hard to upload on good private trackers) and 3TB is enough buffer to use for the next 1 year anyway...

In conclusion:
- Users love fast seedboxes (to maintain a good ratio as easy as possible), with many available plugins/tools, good support and stability. Most of users don't have the knowledge (and the time) to setup a dedicated server and deal with many possible problems they will have sooner or later. So they just buy a seedbox from a good company like seedboxes.cc (and many other good companies of course) and they do the job.
- I really believe that using a seedbox on public trackers is a waste of money. You can just buy a HUGE HDD for your home PC, a VPN ($50 or so per year) to hide your real IP and save A LOT of money. This way you also save time from the FTP transfer process (seedbox to desktop).
- Last but not least, i don't recommend public trackers anyway. They are way more risky than private trackers (even while you are using a VPN since nobody knows how safe the VPN companies are) and they are full of shit as well. Too many viruses on public trackers and of course most of public trackers are very bad organized compared to the private trackers.

Anyway... Everybody has a different point of view, so there is no need for fights guys

And I have to agree to disagree with you. People have the notion that public trackers are full of viruses and bla bla, slow and all that NONSENSE. Yes there are crappy public trackers but there are public trackers at par with private ones. Hell i can show you public trackers that have fresh out of the box games before any private tracker and where the private trackers get them from? well you guessed right. And that goes with apps, etc. Another false and nonsensical notion is the fact that people say public trackers are riskier than private. That can not be more far from the truth because its impossible. First of all hundreds of vpns that have on their UPS AND TOS that they dont provide to third parties your info, second seedboxes from france and netherlands to mention a few DO NOT HAVE LAUGHS punishing torrents so you are as safe as you can be downloading from your seedbox located in those countries, there are more more authorities in private trackers than in public ones, because some of them are 0day and thats wo they are after NOT the 2nd 3rd and 4th hand... Dont believe me ask me in skype and i will show you the TRUTH. Having shit set up in your home is a no no, unless you are a lonely guy in a couch just uploding and downloading torrents. Theres a family who uses the internet, play games, watch online shows etc etc, and all that factors when seeding stuff from home so that is a NO NO. Unless You want to be a dirtbag who seeds at max 100kb then do so