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If we can get the TorrentInvites people to install a plug-in then we could get tables within the form page. There are probably a number of pretty cool table plug-ins. I did a quick search for something on the vBulletin forums and found this:
http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=107985
It basically gives you BB code type tables. You can sort them by column (ascending/descending) and you can change the look to pretty much whatever you can get creative with (though a bit of CSS modification and the tables could look even neater).
Mind you, this is just the first thing I came across. There might be better table plug-ins. What I was really looking for was not a forum plug-in, but a site page plug-in. For instance, they offer calendars, photo albums, and bunches of other site page plug-ins, I was hoping to find something like that. That way the data would likely be stored in the vBulletin DB...and it could be a stand alone page that subscribers could view, but only sellers could change. I still think there is something like that already available, but I didn't have enough time to look for it tonight.
So, the next best solution is to just get a table that you can embed into a forum thread. But again, there are probably a number of these types of plug-ins for vBulletin. I just posted the first thing I found above.
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Like this is something I thought was well done:
http://filesharingtalk.com/what-trackers-offer/
But I think it is just a table plug-in into their forum (not vBulletin, so nothing we can use here). And they probably locked the thread and allow it to be modified by one person. Then they could put the link to that thread anywhere they want (so it could look like a page plug-in even though it is a forum plug-in). We could do the same with the BB code table plug-in (though to get it looking that nice it might require some CSS modifications, maybe). But we would need the TorrentInvites people to add the plug-in (or find something better).
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also do yo uknow of a work around for these trackers that can be sold as account, even if it means just selling it and you cant change anything, but just because ip change it should still be fine
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Blueberries:
I'm not sure I understand. The problem that Trackers have with banning on IP change is that IP's change all the time. The only time an IP doesn't change is when someone has a dedicated IP. Though, its just a matter of paying more money to your ISP to get a dedicated IP, who would do that? Those that use Torrents want there IP to change, it adds a bit to the anonymity. Moreover, the ultimate goal is to use a nice VPN, making themselves nearly completely anonymous (except to the VPN provider...but that's what they get paid for). But the problem with a VPN is not just that the IP changes, but that you pay to get VPN access from different places all over the World (U.S., Amsterdam, China, you name it). So, it is nice to be able to pick, on any given day, which country you want to appear to be from this day.
Well, banning on IP changes kinda puts a wrench in the works. But that is a pretty big wrench to be tossing in. I mean, its almost like trying to make users use their real names, addresses, and even give the Tracker a SS# or given the new EU Dictatorship that's a commin, a Euro ID Number (soon to be tattooed to the foreheads of every European...might it be 666...keep up the good fight, comrades). Well, maybe not that intrusive, but still, pretty intrusive.
So, I don't think that trackers can strictly ban on IP change alone (with the possible exception of a Country IP change). It would have to be a factor of things (IP change and additional changes to your account settings...like email/password/etc).
Mind you, some of the trackers will ban on a Country IP change (a few of them at least). Which means that I am stuck in the U.S. with my VPN. That doesn't mean all of the trackers do that. So, if I understand your question correctly I would say that it is pretty safe to buy a tracker account whose previous owner had an IP in the same country as you (provided you change nothing). And it is just a little less safe to buy a tracker whose previous owner had an IP in a different country than you (again, only because a small number of trackers ban on Country IP change). The bigger issues are with the email/password changes.
I think that, in this thread, sallomsalcice is just trying to answer the question, "can you change your email and/or password and/or other settings on different trackers". If you are not going to change anything then it is likely that you are not going to need this thread (with the possible exception of the Country IP change thingy...you might want to know if you need to be searching for accounts from the same country or not). If you are not going to change anything then either your account will work or it won't work, but there would not have been anything you could have done to change that (other than, again, the issue of the Country IP change...if that veered its ugly head).
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By the way, there are other things that Trackers do to figure out if you might be a "bad seed", so to speak. Like your visits to this site or others leave traces in your "temporary internet files" and your cookies. So, sometimes you might get banned because you accidentally visited one of these sites on the same machine that you use to log into the tracker sites.
This should be information that gets onto the table as well. It would be nice to know which trackers use those tactics. Though I think it is probably easier just to tell people not to log into tracker sites on the same computer as they use to log into sites like TorrentInvites. Just good common sense, best applied always instead of selectively.
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Great points PoeJay, thanks for ur info and explaining to Bluebarries what is the case with these trackers, i feel if we work together when we have some time, we can be able to find all the necessary about trackers so people can be almost 100% safe when buying and trading, keep up the great work and the constructive comments PoeJay
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shall i change email for trancerout??
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Lets see...what are the factors involved that you have not told us. Keep in mind giving us any information could also give a spy information that might help them determine who you are. Like if you said, "I just bought a tracerout account yesterday and I have a good ratio (10.13) and I changed my password yesterday, but I want to know if I can change my email address today?" That would probably be bad for you. Cause that might be plenty of information for them to determine who you are. Not that this is a huge risk, but given enough info it might be very easy to figure out who you are (on their site). This is why I was thinking that a more comprehensive table would just allow people to look up the risk level of changing things, rather than asking. Still, what are the factors involved.
1. When you bought the account...did your Country IP change (between what it was and what you are using)? You are not nessassarilly going to know this. But you will likely get an account where someone listed themselves as being from France or something. And if you are from the U.S. or something...then it is likely that your country IP changed. Also, keep in mind that whoever you bought this from may have also logged in and thus their IP is likely also involved.
2. How long have you been using your current IP with the account? If you have been using this account for weeks with the same IP then it is probably more likely that changes to your profile will go unnoticed. Even if your IP is changing (because you ISP changes it now and then...or because you are using a VPN or portal of some sorts) so long as the IP is generally in the same area of the World (like if it is always from Amsterdam) then that is a plus as well (not so much as it staying the same...but better then if it jumped from Los Angeles to Amsterdam). Basically, the rule of thumb is wait....wait....wait...and then change one thing (password maybe)....then...wait....wait...wait...then change another thing or two (email maybe), etc...
3. How long has it been since the last password change (or last email change)? Again, this is similar to 2 above. Basically it is good to wait between changing things. Keep in mind that the person you bought the account from will likely have changed things in the account prior to selling it to you. So, you should probably assume that both the username and password have changed on the day you bought the account. Thus changing them immediately is higher risk. Eventually a nice table on this website could tell you when that is OK and when it is not OK, but if you are not sure for any particularly Tracker, then the rule of thumb would be to not change them right away. Wait...wait...wait. Try to keep the same IP while you are waiting. Wait for a week...two weeks...more depending on how hard it was to get this account....then change one thing....then wait again. Wait some more. Then maybe change something else. And do that until everything you want to change is nicely changed.
4. Do you connect to this website (or any site like it) using the same IP that you connect to your trackers with? Now, I am assuming that you are not using the same computer to connect to these websites. If you are then that is a big, huge, problem. You definitely will get into trouble if you use the same computer. But you might also get into trouble if you using a different computer, but with the same IP. Most of you are probably doing this. And there really isn't much you can do to get around it. But if you are doing this, then you need to be careful with external links (for example):
Code:
http://www._IAmANicePerson_SoClickMe_.com/ThenIWillKnowYourIPHaHa.jpg
Of course, it won't be as obvious as this (and of course, you shouldn't click on such things). Worse yet, any forum post that has an image (including Avatars and banners) could be giving access to your IP to someone else. If that someone else is a spy then that IP could go on a blacklist for the Tracker site and next time you log in to your tracker then you are banned. This is why I really would like to see TorrentInvites limit the use of embedded images, avatars, banners, and even external links, much more than they currently do. For instance, we should never have a thread like that "100 Numbers" thread. It seems to me that that is clearly a thread for spys to post images to track peoples IP's. You definitely should avoid that thread.
Anyway, the cardinal rule is "wait". And of course, the lesser rules are also "wait"...and "wait some more". Unless you have a list somewhere that tells you it is OK to change the username and/or password right away. Then all you can do is fallow the cardinal rule (and its lesser buddies). Change things slowly over time and then you will have a better chance of not getting banned.
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Thanks for the explanations PoeJay, keep up the great work ;)
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what for iplay i was recently traded the account it was banned as ip changes ;'(