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Also, do they ban all of your invites as well? If so, I would feel kind of bad. There were already some people invited by the account that I got, and if they kick me then they might kick them as well. One was a complete leech, but there was at least one that was clearly working hard to keep up a very good rating. I'm feeling a bit bummed now due to my noobishness. Do you think they auto ban all of the accounts invites as well?
Let this be a lesson to all you co-noobs...read all these helpful threads before you buy.
You have to tell me which account do you change the details too before i can try to give a better unswear, for some the bann is instant and for some others usually a less then a day and for others longer, it all depends, so you will just have to wait, and usually they do not ban the people you have invited
I think HDBits and SceneHD will both boot on a country IP change. Also some sites like HDBits and TL and others will allow you to change things like password/email so long as your country IP does not change. So, the country IP seems to be a pretty big factor in things.
This is to say that your list may contain items that work because those people had same country IP, but others may not have worked because they had different country IP. So the first thing you want to know for each of these is whether the country IP changed or not. Then the question becomes "Can you change the Email or Password or both?". So your questions should be:
1. Did your country IP change when you got the new account?
2. Were you able to change your Email or Password or Both?
3. When you made the password change (if you did) did you do it in the Account Info screen or on the "Forgot Password" link on the login screen?
So, you might do something like the following:
Tracker, CountryIP, Email, Password, Result
HDBits, Yes, N/A, N/A, Banned
HDBits, No, No, No, Good
HDBits, No, Yes, No, Good
HDBits, No, No, Yes, Good
HDBits, No, Yes, Yes, Good
SceneHD, Yes, N/A, N/A, Banned
SceneHD, No, No, No, ????????
SceneHD, No, Yes, No, ????????
SceneHD, No, No, Yes, ????????
SceneHD, No, Yes, Yes, ????????
etc....
Of course, who is going to risk making any changes to HDBits even if people tell you it is OK. At least not until you wait for a good long time and only change one thing at a time.
Now this is probably not enough detail. Like sometimes you cannot change the password directly in the Account Info screen, but you can change it on the Login screen by clicking the "Forgot Password" link. So, maybe you need to include that (maybe an include an "A" or "L" after the "Yes" in the Password column). Or maybe just have a new column (two columns for password....a "Password A" and a "Password L" column).
In any case, if you cover all bases like this then over time people can tell you what happens in each instance. Then you will have a pretty neat chart.
But even then I don't think you can maintain such a chart. Spy's will dump bad info on you and that will make its way onto the chart. So, maybe only accept info from reputable site contributors (or better yet, make it so that only sellers can change list items since they get immediate feedback from people that they sell to).
But then again, maybe this is not stuff sellers want to share. I mean, its a part of what it means to be an experienced seller. Though in this case, it might help this site to avoid conflicts due to inexperienced sellers selling accounts that are destined to be banned. Plus even an experienced seller can't know how ALL the trackers react to such things. So, they might be willing to contribute such info.
But get the chart columns down first, so that it represents all cases needed. Sorry for the long post.
I couldn't figure it out, but is there some way to do tables in this forum? I mean, I noticed the HTML tags, but that didn't seem to do anything. I was going to put the above in an HTML table so that it looked nice, but I couldn't find out how. Also, I couldn't space over making columns because the forum removes multiple spaces. So, I just gave you the table in that silly comma deliminator list thing.
That does seem like a great idea PoeJay, the only thing would be that it would be a lot of work and it would be hard to find all the exact necessary infos
Yea, but that was why I thought it could be something that the sellers could do. I mean, it is easy enough to put together all of the possible combination. Then all a seller would need to do is tell you "Banned" or "Good" for any that he/she runs into with their clients. Eventually the list would be pretty full.
Also, I would be willing to bet that a lot of trackers (Level 1, maybe Level 2) don't even monitor this information to any great degree (though I am new to this so i don't really know), and even if they did, who really cares all that much since it is easy enough to get another invite/account from those sites. So, there is really just a small subset of sites that people want to know about. So, that might reduce the list to a more manageable number of trackers.
It would be nice if this (and some of the other threads info...like the one on Levels/Ratings) could be integrated into the Torrentinvites site. Then you could have a neat front end for sellers to modify the data directly (and a neat front end for other users to view the data). At the very least these types of tables would bring you some addition web traffic. Which is another incentive for sellers to contribute. I mean, it is not that difficult to put together a simple web table. It doesn't have to be super fancy or anything. And the DB site would be pretty easy too, just a single table (though I would probably have a table with Tracker info in it and then have separate tables with the data in it for each of the datasets you are keeping track of, that is, what stuff you are currently tracking in your forum threads, like Level/Rating and Banning info). Just thinking out loud here.
In any case, once you have the data you can then figure out some nice way to let people view it (and a nice way to keep it up to date). So, it isn't necessary to have all the bells and whistles right away. Getting a good set of reliable data is probably the first step. Again, maybe I'm going overboard here, but just thought I would mention it.
I am with you on this one. That is a great idea. This info it only need to be assembled one and then is good forever in a way. The thing is that i do not have the time or the resources to do something like that, also very few people would come here and share their experience, especially after it was a good experience, they would just od their deal and be done with it, again for this to be done perfect someone has to have some time int heir hand to set up everything and once it is setup it can work itself with the help of people
Yea, I'm a bit busy myself lately. I have three projects I am currently working on, but maybe I can spare a little time. The problem is that I can't put anything up for testing without people being able to find out who I am (through my current development websites). I'll have to figure out how I might put up a more anonymous website for testing.
Still, I would be surprised if vBulletin doesn't already have some plug-in that lets you set up tables or some such. If they already have a plug-in then that would be the way to go. You just need to add it to the website and then allow select sellers to modify it over time. So, that would probably be the first place to look.
OK an alternative is work on a excel table and then just do a screenshot of it and upload it here as an image and if people put suggestions then just edit the excel page and take an other screenshot