Help with dedi choices and set-up

I finally decided to go dedi because I can't handle how unstable shared servers can get. I'm currently having terrible performance on The SeedBox Company for instance and they simply won't help.

After a bit of research I found this i3-530 plan which is within my budget (€20):

http://oneprovider.com/dedicated-servers/paris-france

I have had a bit of experience with linux (ubuntu/ubuntu based) on personal computers so I guess I'd be able to install and manage most stuff like a Plex installation as I already did this under Linux Mint, for instance. But I bet I'd have a lot of trouble with the initial set-up. I'd need VNC access to do this stuff as I know very little about command line.

So I wonder if someone would be able to help me initially just so I'm headed in the right direction.

Also, if you guys have any recommendations for dedicated plans, let me know, I don't know much about them. This plan seemed to offer the best value because of the Raid 1 1TB + 1gbps network. No way I'd get this kind of features/performance on a managed/shared box at this price, am I right?

Thanks in advance. :)

oneprovider.com/dedicated-servers/paris-france

^^

will not give you a control panel and the speed not a stable , search for a review in google

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a good and a cheap server

http://www.kimsufi.com/en/

or

http://www.online.net/en/dedicated-server/dedibox-scg2

will give you a control panel


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What would the control panel be for?

setup through the command line is pretty easy.

you can follow this guide for ubuntu/debian: http://forums.rutorrent.org/?topic=256.0

there are also some auto setup scripts available for installing seedboxes, but i prefer to do it manually - especially if you do not know linux that well coz this will help you to learn more and you'll have a better idea what to do if something goes wrong.

if you get stuck with linux, a quick google search always has more than enough info

If I get any debian-based distro and I first login through SSH could I simple apt-get VNC and then get to the desktop as I am used to? Or would it be more complicated?

server installs are usually headless, i.e. there is no gui installed. you will need to install a gui first and then install a vnc server

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Originally Posted by gmon

server installs are usually headless, i.e. there is no gui installed. you will need to install a gui first and then install a vnc server

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With a bit of googling I found this instructions for Debian:

# apt-get install aptitude tasksel

# tasksel install gnome-desktop --new-install

So... Unless something goes wrong, I'd install a GUI like Gnome through apt-get like shown above, then VNC and that's it? (it sounds too easy XD)

BTW guys, I was thinking in going with this script. Sounds legit to you?
The OS is Ubuntu 14.04 and the provider is OneProvider.

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try it for one month and give us the result

i like this script on left

https://tal0ne.co.uk/premium-seedboxes.php

and someone said Deluge more faster than rutorrent try

I'm afraid of trying it out and then messing up with the OS... But I guess the chances are slim?

EDIT:

I tried this script on a ubuntu server 14.04 bridged vmware installation and I confirmed that the rtorrent works well. Deluge doesn't though and that's what I would be using. Does anyone have a more reliable Deluge script?

give us a picure to see the speed

https://github.com/imakiro/seedbox-from-scratch


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahIdUr3yW64


How to install Deluge Seedbox on Ubuntu Server.

Server specs:
Ubuntu 12.10 x64 | 512MB RAM | 20GB SSD

Command :
http://pastebin.com/v3UtriUn

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Originally Posted by KindSoul

I'm afraid of trying it out and then messing up with the OS... But I guess the chances are slim?

EDIT:

I tried this script on a ubuntu server 14.04 bridged vmware installation and I confirmed that the rtorrent works well. Deluge doesn't though and that's what I would be using. Does anyone have a more reliable Deluge script?

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Thx once again, mate.

I didn't get the question "give us a picture to see the speeds". You mean the network speed of the provider? That's just the same as my desktop it seems... Because I'm still testing all this on VMWare waiting for OneProvider to finally allow me to use the service.

As of now I managed to get rutorrent + plugins, deluge, vsftpd and plex working which is what truly matters to me. I just hope it will be exactly the same when doing it through SSH on their box. Since the OS is the same both here and there it's very likely to work just as it does here, right?

try try

a picture like this

http://itcafe.hu/dl/upc/2012-06/101782_rutorrent.jpg

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Originally Posted by hoko

try try

a picture like this

http://itcafe.hu/dl/upc/2012-06/101782_rutorrent.jpg

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They handed me the server, finally.

I've got 864mbit/s already on HTTP. I'll post a Deluge shot later with some speeds. I didn't get to torrent on it yet. XD

Weird thing to me is I've got it running on a i3-530 and when I access it through NoMachine (VNC is not working) the CPU jumps to 25% or so and it's completely unresponsive as if the latency was terrible (20ms to 30ms from here). There's no way an i3 would choke running XFCE don't you think? Any ideas on why this may be happening?

OMG... I've started to throw some torrents at it and even well seeded torrents usually don't achieve much more than 300mbit/s. Upload speeds about 20mbit/s so far.

But like I said above speeds reach more than 800mbit/s on HTTP. This is really, really sad thing to see... Especially pairing with the performance of NoMachine which is usually great to me. CPU is at about 30% of load...

Do you guys think it's an I/O problem? Even though it's a 2x1TB Raid 1 setup? Any light on this is welcomed.

read and search for a review

Yeah, you had warned me, I listened, actually. But there's no setup-fee so I thought about trying it out first and cancelling it next month if it was bad.

But what you have to understand is that on HTTP it's multiple times faster. Why would it be so much slower on torrents only I wonder? Are they throttling the protocol, is that it?

Also, people were saying there that it runs old hardware. An i3-530 may be old but it's by no means a weak CPU. It's supposed to handle everything I do very, very easily. Pretty much just Deluge + Plex + Remote Assistance.

EDIT:

http://www.speedtest.net/result/3840358363.png

No way in hell I'm getting these results through Deluge. :(

yeah cheap 2 tb 25$ p/m

keep it if you want to seed for a long time

and get another fast server or shared seedbox

and i dont know about the speed i think they have an old hardware

which script do you have used?

can you upload a picture for deluge or rutorrent

http://i.imgur.com/cBSbUnK.png
http://i.imgur.com/BTBqE9o.png

The second picture is an upload of mine to TvT. There are 4 seedboxes trying to connect and look at that... 0kb/s... Only one at freaking 17kb/s.

I've never seen this before. I've opened a ticket because most people seem to get way faster speeds than that.

I've managed to reach 500mbit/s download with like 30 well seeded torrents at once though. And about 20mbit/s upload. That's pretty much the record with 1k peers... Freaking unbelievable, mate...

It can't simply be the hardware when I get 900mbit/s through other protocols. Downloading from the box through FTP and streaming Plex pretty much maxes out my 120mbit home line as well. They are deliberately throttling bittorrent... would't you say?

EDIT:

I've started seeding that same torrent but on my home connection. Results? Seeding it at my line's max speed, 1.5 MiB/s compared to 50 KiB/s on OneProvider's box right now. Same client, same time, both 100% completion...

not good

and they dont have a control panel dont waste your time with them

online.net will be good i will try it in future

and i think this script is good

https://github.com/imakiro/seedbox-from-scratch

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use snagit 11 for pictures

any help for snagit 11 pm me

They've replied with the following message: We will check this with the DC.

What's DC? I sure as hell hope they fix this.

BTW I read many people saying that the peering on online.net is the same as oneprovider. Are you certain that it's good enough?

When you get it, make sure to share the experience. ;)

Data Center.

online.net search for a review in google

sure i will

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Data Center.

online.net search for a review in google

sure i will

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I've been reading many threads and there are people claiming to have both oneprovider and online.net boxes and having shitty speeds on both of them. Not really that different. Not as shitty as mine, ofc, because this shit here is history. But let's say around 100mbps transfers. At this point I'd rather get Kimsufi's KS-3 plan, no doubt about it.

I guess it's a very hit and miss thing. It might suck, it might not. I just hope they do something about it. They haven't done anything yet since their reply. I'll keep you posted.

http://oneprovider.com/dedicated-servers/paris-france


oneprovider is a reseller dont expect a great support so be patient for one month


good but an expensive

http://www.soyoustart.com/us/essential-servers/

http://www.ovh.com/us/dedicated-servers/enterprise/

https://www.leaseweb.com/bare-metal-...ngle-processor

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http://www.online.net/en/dedicated-server/dedibox-xc

someone said dont get VIA 1x VIA® Nano® U2250 is a slow Processor

VIA 1x VIA® Nano® U2250

here

http://www.online.net/en/dedicated-server/dedibox-scg2

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http://www.kimsufi.com/en/

my KS-1

http://i.imgur.com/2YdCENT.jpg

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Originally Posted by hoko

http://www.online.net/en/dedicated-server/dedibox-xc

someone said dont get VIA 1x VIA® Nano® U2250 is a slow Processor

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I had that VIA box for a while and it was pretty slow. Single core, low cache and low frequency, but very cheap and green. It is ok for casual torrenting, but if you're doing something else with the box or (un)rarring a lot, spend a bit more to get more bang for your buck.

do you have a seedbox on online.net's sever ?

whats your speed?? pleas provide a picture

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Originally Posted by Cerid1955

I had that VIA box for a while and it was pretty slow. Single core, low cache and low frequency, but very cheap and green. It is ok for casual torrenting, but if you're doing something else with the box or (un)rarring a lot, spend a bit more to get more bang for your buck.

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Originally Posted by hoko

do you have a seedbox on online.net's sever ?

whats your speed?? pleas provide a picture

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I used to have a couple, but don't anymore. Speeds were pretty good, between 500 and 700mbps most of the time and never had any downtime.

^^^^

thanks for your reply so is a great server

They must have done something because speeds are sky rocketing with just a few torrents now!

So far I've seen 80 mB/s down and 50 mB/s up with just a handful of torrents. Finally similar speeds to the speedtests. I bet that with a very good swarm I can reach these speeds now:

http://www.speedtest.net/result/3842852933.png

This is what I get on a specific French server which gives me the best results.

If the box keeps performing like this from now on, without having more issues, then it's settled. It's the best value dedicated seedbox out there most likely. Let's see what's going to happen over time.

Thanks everyone for replying. :)

Remember that their prices are very low, so you cannot expect a performance of a Ferrari all the time with a cost of a Volkswagen ;)

Good to hear you're back in business!

how about the vat/tax how can i remove it ?

i am outside eu

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I used to have a couple, but don't anymore. Speeds were pretty good, between 500 and 700mbps most of the time and never had any downtime.

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Originally Posted by hoko

how about the vat/tax how can i remove it ?

i am outside eu

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I'm out of EU too and didn't have to pay VAT. Kimsufi/OVH asks verification like a driver's license to prove that you're out of EU, but Online.net/Oneprovider doesn't require any physical evidence. I think they just rely on the country selection in your account and/or the method of payment.

I guess you can always open up a ticket to them in the worst case and ask a refund for the VAT.

Hey guys. When I try to upload with Deluge the connections drop very, very fast and in the end it was being too annoying to seed anything with it (besides waffles) so I ditched it for rTorrent. Thing is:

The download speed on well seeded torrents while using Deluge is about 80 MiB/s to 95 MiB/s. But this drops drastically to 30 MiB/s to 50 MiB/s on rTorrent.

Do you guys know why would that be? Can I change some settings to make it more aggressive and actually use my whole bandwidth like Deluge does?

no idea

but everyone said Deluge more faster than rutorrent

please provide pictures......

as i understand from some forums i have read, deluge is more aggressive in the beginning when there are more leechers and less seeders and rtorrent is more stable and seeds better on the long term.

some people start torrents with deluge and then move them over to rtorrent after a while.

note: i have no personal experience with this technique.

i always install blow clients on my servers, i do see a lot more speed at the beginning when downloading a torrent but i prefer rutorrent overall, just my preference.