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    difference between WEB and ENCODE

    hi,

    In hd and movies trackers, there were two formats for file quality WEB and Encode

    please clarify difference between them

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    WEB-DL is a remux, or untouched quality from web sources like streaming services, encode is a compressed version of any untouched source (Like WEB or Blu-ray). WEBRIPs are basically encodes of WEB-DLs. According to scene naming conventions, WEB = WEB-DL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tempest11 View Post
    WEB-DL is a remux, or untouched quality from web sources like streaming services, encode is a compressed version of any untouched source (Like WEB or Blu-ray). WEBRIPs are basically encodes of WEB-DLs. According to scene naming conventions, WEB = WEB-DL
    Are there categories inside the two formats, I mean for example youtube video could be played on low quality or hd quality, so are there categories within both

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    Quote Originally Posted by Osb0rne01 View Post
    Are there categories inside the two formats, I mean for example youtube video could be played on low quality or hd quality, so are there categories within both

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    what are those?

    HEVC
    AVC Remux
    H256 WEB
    H256/4 WEB
    X256

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tempest11 View Post
    WEB-DL is a remux, or untouched quality from web sources like streaming services, encode is a compressed version of any untouched source (Like WEB or Blu-ray). WEBRIPs are basically encodes of WEB-DLs. According to scene naming conventions, WEB = WEB-DL
    this is a very clear example of my question, https://imgur.com/7FqE3xC
    again are there categories within both

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    Quote Originally Posted by Osb0rne01 View Post
    what are those?

    HEVC
    AVC Remux
    H256 WEB
    H256/4 WEB
    X256
    HEVC - High Efficiency Video Coding*(HEVC), also known as*H.265*

    AVC Remux - AVC is a codec, a remux is a type of release, you can't even compare the two.

    H256 WEB - you mean H.265 is a format for 2160p WEB release.

    H256/4 - you mean H.264 vs H.265

    Both are powerful tools capable of producing high-quality outputs, yet they vary. The main difference between H.265 and H.264 is their compression efficiency. H.265 can achieve up to 50% more compression than H.264, which means that it can transmit the same quality video using less bandwidth or storage. This makes H.265 ideal for high-resolution video formats such as 4K and 8K.

    *WEB-DL is*untouched*from source like amazon ,disney+ and WEBRips are encodes from WEB-DL as a direct source.

    Sometimes 1080p WEBRip is made from 4K WEB-DL, then it is better than 1080p WEB-DL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Osb0rne01 View Post
    hi,

    In hd and movies trackers, there were two formats for file quality WEB and Encode

    please clarify difference between them

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    So "WEB" isn't a format at all. I'm not an expert, but I'll have a go at explaining the situation using the sources that I've found helpful.

    "Remuxing is the process of transferring the video and audio streams from one container file to another container without any alteration to the streams’ quality. The video and audio in the new container will be identical to that in the original file, but in a different container format.

    The main difference between a remux and a re-encode is that a remux only changes the container format, while a re-encode compresses the video and audio streams, which can result in a loss of quality.

    Remuxing allows for a smaller file size without sacrificing quality, making it ideal for archiving or distributing large video files.

    A container file, also known as a wrapper or a file format, is a type of metadata that contains various types of data, like video, audio, and subtitles tracks, that are encoded with a codec."
    "Remuxing can lead to a reduction in file size as only the main video and one of the original soundtracks are preserved in their original form, while all other data, such as additional audio tracks, subtitles, or chapters, can be removed."

    HEVC = H.256
    AVC = H.264
    As I understand it - the difference between x265 and H.265 is that H.265 is the compression standard and x265 is the software most pirates use - because these compression standards are copyrighted.

    WEB Dl = Downloading the file from the source, as is. Aka you get the same file the website has.
    WEB RIP = Downloading thr file from the source, but it might be compressed by the server that serves you the file (aka if you download a file from FB you get a compressed POS file that looks like butthole)

    Edit: x265 is more efficient than x264 - so the file size is less , but it requires more processing power to run the files (aka if you're using a raspberry pi as a media server you might want to go with x264 rather than x265 purely due to the processing power required to run x265 - even though the file size is smaller for x265

    So if you WEB DL a file that has multiple languages of audio, and different subtitles- you might remux it so it has only English audio and Engligh subtitles - the English audio and subtitles will be the same size as they originally were, but you will get rid of everything else that you don't want.

    You could then re-encode it to compress the file so that it's smaller. You coukd re-encode it first if you wanted to - but you would be compressing all of the audio and subtitle files when most people don't need that.
    Last edited by Squidgy; 12-28-2023 at 10:52 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bucknaked View Post
    HEVC - High Efficiency Video Coding*(HEVC), also known as*H.265*

    AVC Remux - AVC is a codec, a remux is a type of release, you can't even compare the two.

    H256 WEB - you mean H.265 is a format for 2160p WEB release.

    H256/4 - you mean H.264 vs H.265

    Both are powerful tools capable of producing high-quality outputs, yet they vary. The main difference between H.265 and H.264 is their compression efficiency. H.265 can achieve up to 50% more compression than H.264, which means that it can transmit the same quality video using less bandwidth or storage. This makes H.265 ideal for high-resolution video formats such as 4K and 8K.

    *WEB-DL is*untouched*from source like amazon ,disney+ and WEBRips are encodes from WEB-DL as a direct source.

    Sometimes 1080p WEBRip is made from 4K WEB-DL, then it is better than 1080p WEB-DL.
    thank you for piece of info
    I am getting those from invite forum, that`s why make me ask
    I am not familiar with those names
    I just broaden my knowledge base

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squidgy View Post
    So "WEB" isn't a format at all. I'm not an expert, but I'll have a go at explaining the situation using the sources that I've found helpful.

    "Remuxing is the process of transferring the video and audio streams from one container file to another container without any alteration to the streams’ quality. The video and audio in the new container will be identical to that in the original file, but in a different container format.

    The main difference between a remux and a re-encode is that a remux only changes the container format, while a re-encode compresses the video and audio streams, which can result in a loss of quality.

    Remuxing allows for a smaller file size without sacrificing quality, making it ideal for archiving or distributing large video files.

    A container file, also known as a wrapper or a file format, is a type of metadata that contains various types of data, like video, audio, and subtitles tracks, that are encoded with a codec."
    "Remuxing can lead to a reduction in file size as only the main video and one of the original soundtracks are preserved in their original form, while all other data, such as additional audio tracks, subtitles, or chapters, can be removed."

    HEVC = H.256
    AVC = H.264
    As I understand it - the difference between x265 and H.265 is that H.265 is the compression standard and x265 is the software most pirates use - because these compression standards are copyrighted.

    WEB Dl = Downloading the file from the source, as is. Aka you get the same file the website has.
    WEB RIP = Downloading thr file from the source, but it might be compressed by the server that serves you the file (aka if you download a file from FB you get a compressed POS file that looks like butthole)

    Edit: x265 is more efficient than x264 - so the file size is less , but it requires more processing power to run the files (aka if you're using a raspberry pi as a media server you might want to go with x264 rather than x265 purely due to the processing power required to run x265 - even though the file size is smaller for x265

    So if you WEB DL a file that has multiple languages of audio, and different subtitles- you might remux it so it has only English audio and Engligh subtitles - the English audio and subtitles will be the same size as they originally were, but you will get rid of everything else that you don't want.

    You could then re-encode it to compress the file so that it's smaller. You coukd re-encode it first if you wanted to - but you would be compressing all of the audio and subtitle files when most people don't need that.
    thanks

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    what does "Re-encoded x265 movie" mean
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    AVC and REMUX (or web) are 2 things totally differents

    AVC is video format
    H264 or H265 is a codec

    web/ remux/Bluray/ etc are appealing to video quality


    Remux : untouched quality video
    Bluray : 1 : 1 exact copy of bluray disc
    web dl : web download
    web rip : it's either screen recording or the stream is re-encoded

    Re-encoded x265 movie means that a movie with x265 video codec is encoded again (generally to have a smallest file than original)


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