Originally Posted by TrenxT

...I cant name you real fast 20 ppl on my friends list ( public trackers ) that send an average of 70tb a month...

This explains your point of view

That's why most of the seedbox companies do not allow public trackers. Because on public trackers, the majority of users download what they need and they don't even seed (they delete the torrent right after they have finished it). Or they seed with their slow home connections so their upload speed is terrible.

Having said that, we understand that the majority of those users, take advantage (speed/bandwidth) of the minority of the seedbox users...

On the other hand, on private trackers most users have seedboxes, so the "upload competition" is hard. Just try to download 1GB torrent on SCC, BMTV (and other similar trackers) and you will see how hard it is to make ratio 1 or bigger on this torrent!

So, imo, unlimited traffic is pointless on private trackers. Most of the users i know, don't even upload 3TB per month on their trackers (since it's so hard to upload on good private trackers) and 3TB is enough buffer to use for the next 1 year anyway...

In conclusion:
- Users love fast seedboxes (to maintain a good ratio as easy as possible), with many available plugins/tools, good support and stability. Most of users don't have the knowledge (and the time) to setup a dedicated server and deal with many possible problems they will have sooner or later. So they just buy a seedbox from a good company like seedboxes.cc (and many other good companies of course) and they do the job.
- I really believe that using a seedbox on public trackers is a waste of money. You can just buy a HUGE HDD for your home PC, a VPN ($50 or so per year) to hide your real IP and save A LOT of money. This way you also save time from the FTP transfer process (seedbox to desktop).
- Last but not least, i don't recommend public trackers anyway. They are way more risky than private trackers (even while you are using a VPN since nobody knows how safe the VPN companies are) and they are full of shit as well. Too many viruses on public trackers and of course most of public trackers are very bad organized compared to the private trackers.

Anyway... Everybody has a different point of view, so there is no need for fights guys

Originally Posted by TheTrader

This explains your point of view

That's why most of the seedbox companies do not allow public trackers. Because on public trackers, the majority of users download what they need and they don't even seed (they delete the torrent right after they have finished it). Or they seed with their slow home connections so their upload speed is terrible.

Having said that, we understand that the majority of those users, take advantage (speed/bandwidth) of the minority of the seedbox users...

On the other hand, on private trackers most users have seedboxes, so the "upload competition" is hard. Just try to download 1GB torrent on SCC, BMTV (and other similar trackers) and you will see how hard it is to make ratio 1 or bigger on this torrent!

So, imo, unlimited traffic is pointless on private trackers. Most of the users i know, don't even upload 3TB per month on their trackers (since it's so hard to upload on good private trackers) and 3TB is enough buffer to use for the next 1 year anyway...

In conclusion:
- Users love fast seedboxes (to maintain a good ratio as easy as possible), with many available plugins/tools, good support and stability. Most of users don't have the knowledge (and the time) to setup a dedicated server and deal with many possible problems they will have sooner or later. So they just buy a seedbox from a good company like seedboxes.cc (and many other good companies of course) and they do the job.
- I really believe that using a seedbox on public trackers is a waste of money. You can just buy a HUGE HDD for your home PC, a VPN ($50 or so per year) to hide your real IP and save A LOT of money. This way you also save time from the FTP transfer process (seedbox to desktop).
- Last but not least, i don't recommend public trackers anyway. They are way more risky than private trackers (even while you are using a VPN since nobody knows how safe the VPN companies are) and they are full of shit as well. Too many viruses on public trackers and of course most of public trackers are very bad organized compared to the private trackers.

Anyway... Everybody has a different point of view, so there is no need for fights guys

And I have to agree to disagree with you. People have the notion that public trackers are full of viruses and bla bla, slow and all that NONSENSE. Yes there are crappy public trackers but there are public trackers at par with private ones. Hell i can show you public trackers that have fresh out of the box games before any private tracker and where the private trackers get them from? well you guessed right. And that goes with apps, etc. Another false and nonsensical notion is the fact that people say public trackers are riskier than private. That can not be more far from the truth because its impossible. First of all hundreds of vpns that have on their UPS AND TOS that they dont provide to third parties your info, second seedboxes from france and netherlands to mention a few DO NOT HAVE LAUGHS punishing torrents so you are as safe as you can be downloading from your seedbox located in those countries, there are more more authorities in private trackers than in public ones, because some of them are 0day and thats wo they are after NOT the 2nd 3rd and 4th hand... Dont believe me ask me in skype and i will show you the TRUTH. Having shit set up in your home is a no no, unless you are a lonely guy in a couch just uploding and downloading torrents. Theres a family who uses the internet, play games, watch online shows etc etc, and all that factors when seeding stuff from home so that is a NO NO. Unless You want to be a dirtbag who seeds at max 100kb then do so

Originally Posted by TrenxT

And I have to agree to disagree with you. People have the notion that public trackers are full of viruses and bla bla, slow and all that NONSENSE. Yes there are crappy public trackers but there are public trackers at par with private ones. Hell i can show you public trackers that have fresh out of the box games before any private tracker and where the private trackers get them from? well you guessed right. And that goes with apps, etc. Another false and nonsensical notion is the fact that people say public trackers are riskier than private. That can not be more far from the truth because its impossible. First of all hundreds of vpns that have on their UPS AND TOS that they dont provide to third parties your info, second seedboxes from france and netherlands to mention a few DO NOT HAVE LAUGHS punishing torrents so you are as safe as you can be downloading from your seedbox located in those countries, there are more more authorities in private trackers than in public ones, because some of them are 0day and thats wo they are after NOT the 2nd 3rd and 4th hand... Dont believe me ask me in skype and i will show you the TRUTH. Having shit set up in your home is a no no, unless you are a lonely guy in a couch just uploding and downloading torrents. Theres a family who uses the internet, play games, watch online shows etc etc, and all that factors when seeding stuff from home so that is a NO NO. Unless You want to be a dirtbag who seeds at max 100kb then do so

1) Private trackers (at least the good) get their torrents from the scene (FTP servers). Not from public trackers.
2) The risk is EXACTLY the same with VPNs and Seedboxes. They say they protect their users, but who knows what they will do if the feds tell them "give this uploader's details otherwise we will shut your company down". NOBODY KNOWS what they are going to do in this case!
3) There are ways to limit your bandwidth (without affecting the rest of your family) and be fair at the same time. If you want to be leechers' Santa Claus and while you need/download 200GB (or even 1TB) per month to upload 70TB it's up to you though!
4) Public trackers don't have so strict rules about the uploaders. A user can upload on public trackers way easier than on a private tracker.
Also keep in mind that it's easier for the private trackers' mods to keep clean a small community (with a few thousands users) than for the public trackers' mods to keep clean a database with 300.000 users, or even 1.000.000 users.
Last but not least, if a guy wants to infect some users, he will upload an infected file on a public tracker in order to have x500 more snatches (so x500 more possible victims) rather than upload it to a public tracker. No need somebody to be an expert to understand it. Simple maths!

Their is more risk in private trackers than in public trackers. Thats just things some people, like yourself, wont understand. I know because ive been there and ive done that. A seedbox that has a TOS, and a AUP that says it will not give personal details to third parties including government officials, authority, company rep etc CAN NOT DO SO, and if they do you WILL NOT get in trouble at all because it is a breach of contract, it is a LEGALLY FORMED company ( seedbox ) thus the CLIENT ( you ) are protected by the TOS and AUP put in place. Like i told you earlier, theres a lot of things people think they know and actually know nothing about. If a patient goes to a doctor and tells them they have been doing crack, if the doctor goes to the police, they CAN NOT ARREST the patience. Theres a code and law that bars medical personnel to disclose patient information with 3rd person and if done so the doctor is in trouble not the patient...

Enough with the off topic (the thread was about pulsed media). Everybody stated his point of view and the rest can judge the opinions.

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